What our Governments did to our country

Comments will follow once I stop crying

Okay no words are really necessary, but this video will make you think of where our history came from before being nearly destroyed by Marxist scum. We must fight to save it brothers and sisters.

Britain Undercover -

Presenters face hostility on the streets of Britain.

Thank you to Green Arrow and to all patriots

The end of the year draws nigh and my what a year it's been. I started the year wondering why Gordon Brown was so stubborn to deny our people the chance to vote their leader and I was (and remain) outraged that he betrayed our country by signing the Lisbon Treaty without any regard at all to our political preferences, to our rights to choose our own government, to our sovereignty or even to the most basic human instincts that every patriot would hold, that this country we call home would be no more when it was finally under the boot of EU Beaucracy and the powerful forces of globalists.

Green Arrow has a good piece today which I find difficult to add anything to further as it's so good.

Here it is below:-

Now that the Battle for Britain is really beginning to warm up, the British National Party and their heroic (and they are heroic) activists can expect even more vicious attacks in the coming New Year.

We will be attacked in the Press.

We will be physically attacked on the streets when selling Our Papers of Truth.

We will be attacked as individuals when alone.

Our homes will be attacked.

We will be smeared with false allegations both as a Party and as individuals.

The Establishment knows that the British National Party is not just a political party, it is a revolutionary movement for real change. They do not just fear a political victory for the British National Party, their greatest fear is a "Ceausescu Moment" in which the British Public scream enough is enough and overthrows them in a single day.

To prevent this they will spend our money like it is going out of fashion. They are not going to give up their stolen and ill gotten gains without fighting back like cornered rats. And they are not just fighting to retain their stolen wealth, they are fighting for their very freedom because the know a Nationalist Government will investigate them "individually" and then bring them to justice.

Do you think the likes of Brown, Mandelson, Blair and Co give a toss for what is right and what is wrong?

You have seen them shed their false tears over the deaths of Our Children in illegal wars.

You have seen them send our air force off to bomb civilians in Kosovo.

You have seen them steal our pensions, sell our gold, destroy Our Country and much much more evil have they carried out.

They will flinch at NOTHING. Neither must we now. Christians must learn now to forget the "turn the other cheek". Now is the time for "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth". We are no longer talking about OUR survival we are talking about whether Our Children and their children have a future. Harden you hearts and learn to hate the politicians that have brought us to this.

The revolutionary is a doomed man. He has no personal interests, no affairs, no sentiments, attachments, property, not even a name of his own. Everything in him is absorbed by one exclusive interest, one thought, one passion – the revolution.

Now the broader Nationalist Movements must put their differences aside. Internal differences within the British National Party must be forgotten. We must unite behind Nick Griffin and the Leaders of the British National Party and support them 100% - even if we disagree with the way they are conducting the battle.

We must now present a 100% united front because we are up against an enemy who wishes to exterminate us. I do not wish to debate philosophy in a prison cell, I wish to sit and watch Our Children create the Land Fit for Heroes that Our Fathers and Grandfathers were promised when they fought and died for us.

This sites condition has now gone to Amber it may even go Red for the first time ever.

Our Welsh camera crew are now receiving death threats from the catspaws of The Establishment, the UAF and moslems. I want to buy our boys stab jackets. I want to buy them concealed cameras. I want to provide them with the petrol to travel. I want, I want, I want.

This site expects to come under cyber attack within the new year. I have instructed Anjin-sama our Webmaster to buy the best security tools available to protect it. We have already had one nasty attack. We will not be caught out again.

For those of you who wish to join us in the Green Arrow Chat Room, you can find detailed instruction in this article here. If you are IT literate there is a permanent link on the right hand side of this site.

I will be contacting all writers, admins, moderators and researchers shortly in a private email

Long Live the BNP and God protect Nick Griffin.

BELIEVE HIM AT YOUR PERIL!

The recession has ended, black is white, 2 and 2 makes 5, we don't have a marxist government with an unelected Prime Minister. The banks didn't give bonuses out, taxpayers don't have a national debt that would make a good disaster movie, world leaders didn't try to con us about climate change, tomatoes grow in winter, and as long as you keep voting Labour we'll be alright and everything in our European gardens will be rosy. As per Euro Directive 30000A, subsection 4,00000,LibLabCon2, English gardens never existed in case anyone is mistaken about that incidentally. But Gordon Brown says that the UK recession is really over. BELIEVE HIM AT YOUR PERIL!

All mouth and no trousers

The meteing out of a death penalty in China fills the British News with calls by David Miliband and Gordon Brown, which express "British Fury" about the execution of a drug smuggler. It might be worthwhile to remember which country first introduced Opium to China. Brown's an historian isn't he? He should know how it was developed 'globally' and why. He should also know that a big mouth usually lands you in trouble.

Gordon Brown and David Milipede do not speak for me. I didn't vote for either and would never ever agree with anything either of them say. Chinese Justice has nothing to do with us and even if there is an international case to look at countries that mete out the death penalty, the world stage is not the place to do it. Causing embarrassment to us and to China is not right. I support China's decision and I do not support big mouths running round the globe making fools of themselves in my name. This guy broke the law, he paid the price End of! Brown and Milipede will also pay the price one day for their treachery to the British public too, and rows with China will not deviate the public eyes from their own human rights abuses. Anyone who smuggles drugs has to be mental anyway so that's no defence. All criminals have mental problems. That's why they are criminals instead of law abiding citizens. Like traitors who give away your sovereign rights to self government for instance, they MUST have mental problems too but that wouldn't stop me wanting justice for that!

All you need to know about the LibLabCon is right here

If you think this is Britain then think again. This march was led by an Islamic "British Politician" in Wales. The camerman was stopped filming by police on the request of a young woman who happens to be the daughter of a Conservative candidate for parliament.

Failed Tory has-been starts the propaganda war against the British electorate

Well I wasn't going to mention it but yesterday I read that another failed Tory leader Michael Howard, had been rubbishing the British people with a gloom and doom warning to mainstream parties that they should confront the British National Party. He seems to forget that he himself was denounced for broaching the subject of immigration and fell from leadership of the Tory Party because he had tried and failed to confront the issue properly. Let me say that calling British people who support the BNP "evil" is about as loony as a witchfinder general would be in London in the 21st century. There are no witches or evil Mr Howard, just plain speaking folk who don't take in your lies or adhere too much to your PC nonsense which disrespects the indigenous peoples of these islands, mostly English, when you are ready to stand up for ethnic groups before our own people. When you dare not mention "The English" except in whispers, but are ready to support "Equality Bills" for everyone else.

The so called mainstream parties which cannot garner 60% of the electorate to even attend the polling booths of Britain, should really feel quite ashamed of themselves actually in my book. For they have blatantly let in mass migration which now stands around 6 to 7 million whilst 3 million or more of British citizens remain unemployed and hundreds of thousands of youngsters live without hope of ever affording a home or an income to support a family. But this is only one policy Mr Howard and if you look hard enough you'll see BNP immigration policy is not that different to Labour immigration policy except the BNP will actually carry through with theirs and not lie about it or be handcuffed by political correctness. Learn some manners Mr Howard, look at BNP policy, talk about "it", tell the British people why you think it is wrong, "debate it" as you promised and tried to do, but NEVER underestimate the resolve of British people or decry them as being "evil", because you will feel a wrath greater than you could imagine. Just stop lying and either declare yourself IN or OUT of politics. Try, to keep up Mr Howard. This is the 21st century and people demand the truth instead of the usual propaganda!

"Brown does a u-turn" and if you believe that then you're as daft as a brush!

The Times reports today that unelected PM Gordon Brown intends to make families the bedrock of his (cough) new government (pah). The article reads, In a shift in strategy ahead of the general election, the government is abandoning its long-standing ambivalence towards wedlock, conceding that children fare better if their parents are together. A green paper to be published in January will outline new measures to shore up “stable parental relationships”.

About turn, turncoat, turn tail, is there any real difference. I hardly think so. 12 years of doing the opposite, no mention of the irreparable damage caused by Labour these last 12 years and would hardly give a motive to offer support. What about the new equality bill which gives more rights to some than others. Yet they preach on about "fairness". They don't know the meaning of the word! - Tories are no better, they supported half these societal changes. In fact who was it to start with who made it virtually impossible for a family to survive without a combined income with both parents working? Who was it who took mothers away from their children and want dads to plough Europe looking for work in the name of 'fairness' and a 'free market'? How is a family to survive when neither of the main parties have any inkling of understanding why society will break down completely unless ALL their policies are reversed!

In my book the recent oil terminal protests said eveything I need to know about Libs, Tories and Labour. None of them supported British workers. Instead they kept their bargain with Europe and their free market economy which simply places business before people and drives families apart.

Questions: How can a family survive with dad in another country and a mother driven to work?

How can motherhood survive when a government thinks it's a good idea to take your 2-3 year old to a day care centre?

How can our people survive when they receive lower standard education, no historical or moral teaching but are made to feel second class in their own country by an ideological approach to shape society without telling us?

How can the country survive when higher education is available to only those who can afford it whilst others are given grants to attend and fill up our universities?

Labour is NOT the Labour Party I ever knew and nor is the Conservative Party any longer a party I recognise as being mine. As for the LibDems, they blew it when they put Europe on the map before Britain and mouthed about monarchy and the church. The very essense of our constitution yet they would tear it down without batting an eye. NO to all three BNP for me!

When will one of them come clean and admit that Laissez-faire economics has failed? All it has done is created a rich elite, an underclass, turned global populations into economic slaves and has removed our ability to act independently both economically and politically. "We people" have no chance when business interests are the first aims of government, which holds a vainglorious belief that allowing capitalists so much freedom - Breaking state owned (people owned) monopolies in the process, kills societies which are left at the mercy of "investors". When will someone say it doesn't work and we have the national debt to prove it?

We need rid of that debt and the only way we can get rid of it is through inflation and tax. The unions MUST play their part in coming to the same realisation that many have already. People who have lost jobs and homes because of it whilst all they see is more sell offs to the "investors" but with no industrial base to call their own.

The new way forward is for people to have inherent stakes in the state machine. Monopolisation of their basic needs like water, heat and energy, transport and communication. This is where our wealth has gone to. This is where our jobs have gone to and this is where the culture of a society all in it together was ripped apart.

What is the end outcome unless it is reversed? - POVERTY FOR THE MASSES that's what!

When the Scottish tail stops wagging the English dog then England will have a proper government and the United Kingdom (if it still exists), will be at peace with itself....IF we can ever find a politician deserving enough to represent US instead of their own ideological politic which they never seem to tell us about until they've been voted in!

The British people tended to trust politicians but those days for the moment are gone. Only when the next government has completely smashed all that remains of England, will people understand where political power really lies in this country, and that it is not in Westminster but with the people if they only choose to exercise it.

It isn't capitalism that's dead, it's the free market (no reins global approach) which is dead. It has created oligarchs and corporatism of our entire world. In anyone's book, Corporatism and State together means Fascism, and this is now verging on coming totally to the fore if Labour is allowed to write their version of a British Constitution. Because if that is anything like the one Jack Straw imposed on the Falkland Islands I think you'll agree it is not for us but for "them". Such a thing, coupled with decision making within the EU handed down to us, and corporatisation of the country together with mainline political support by all parties, means we have little or no chance to be 'individual' or to feel a part of society in which we have common stakes.

The late socio-economist and business guru Peter Drucker, had the answer to this, and a fine example of what I mean in people stakeholders of society can be seen in how John Lewis operates where all 'employees' are 'partners'. John Lewis I think was one of the very few organisations that held its head at the height of recession. The board is chosen by the 'partners' who all share in the business. They have real value in their place of work and that should be extended to all our 'essential services'. We taxpayers and consumers would be helping each other along with the whole of society in 'consuming' and using (our services). Whereas capitalism can be left for the domestic retail economy to bring competition and lower prices. Labour has not really much of a clue about society or the economy else they'd be promoting a sustainable British one instead of a nefarious 'global' one

Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state,with the belief that the majority is unsuited to govern itself through democracy and by reaffirming the benefits of inequality. Fascist governments forbid and suppress openness and opposition.

Ring any bells?

What's going to happen to our children Mr Brown, when hundreds of thousands are out of work and out of education!

Why does the government not involve young people in some apprenticeships which will teach them something. Why did we ever have 'bogus' universities, and why were they allowed to dictate places to foreign nationals before our own children. Why does everyone have to come here to take their jobs and education? What will happen to our children Mr Brown and what will happen to our country when it fills up and our people are all out of work under educated, on benefits and made to feel they are lazy Mr Brown!

Guess you won't be around then eh!

Climate Comedy

Beat that!

A Cry for England

Reading through the comments on timesonline today, I came across this one which explains the political situation perfectly. I thought it worthy of record in the hope that one day England can be saved from traitors who lord it over us.

Roger Carter wrote:

Omoruyi

You miss the point. No one, no government of ours in the past 50 years has ONCE asked us if we desire to become a multicultural society. This, in many ways, has nothing to do with individual foreigners in that it is not, per se, that we do not like foreigners. What we dont like is our views and opinions on the matter of immigration never being sought and the known feelings we have, being ignored by those WE ELECTED to SERVE US .we gave no mandate for our country to be swamped, we gave no mandate for our long long history to be overturned, diluted and washed away on the back of a multicultural society we never wished for. That is behind the responses here, today more so than just this one case. We have been lied to, cheated and manipulated; on top of that we have seen our sovereignty given away to a European superstate - our national freedoms and right to our own laws usurped aided and abetted by this particular government who I believe have acted treasonably against the memories of those who fought and died in two world wars for our very freedom.In its place we are experiencing a tyranny from within and without. It takes a lot more than a piece of paper to confer nationality. Think about it.

December 24, 2009 1:02 AM GMT on community.timesonline.co.uk Recommended (41)


Someone said does a land really belong to 'anyone'.

Why is this question always asked about England and not other countries! Why is it always MY homeland that is questioned by the world and all its neighbours? Why does every Tom, Dick and Harry want to change MY country, MY culture, MY laws, MY way of life to supplant MY homeland with their own!! The answer is YES. England is English and we English have the right to keep it that way. We English are no different to any other people who have a land to call their own and the idea we are all "global citizens" is sheer madness and confusion. Only the British National Party will give this country its British culture back which was once the envy of the world. This is after all the reason why most immigrants want to come here......BECAUSE OF IT! We are not a multicultural society, we are a multiracial society with one culture, and only the BNP understand this.

Stand up for democracy before we lose the ability to protest

As the season of goodwill approaches and the end of 2009 draws nigh, we could be forgiven for thinking of withdrawing from the war on 'terror politics' in some weird belief that the morals we were brought up to believe, such as 'Peace to all men' and 'Let bygones be bygones', will make a scrap of difference to those people in politics who even now plan their next assault against those same beliefs which formed our nationalities and our cultures over several millennia.

NO!, we must leave to one side our goodwill and hands of peace in this political fight and save them for our brothers and sisters who stand with us. We must never give in, never, in our fight to root out those with ideas and power to destroy us, and be ever watchful of what they are really up to, everyday, every hour and every minute lest we will see the things we all cherish taken from us by Slippery Sid's. - Slippery Sid's who would use the festive season to slip through their plans when peoples' eyes are off the ball.

I notice that the Climate Change rip off failed and that many countries are speaking out about it. Let us not allow the climate freaks to think we have left the fight.

I notice there is still no sight of an enquiry into MP's flipping mortgages on their taxpayer funded homes. No sight for instance of an enquiry into whether they took larger loans, pocketed the money and had us taxpayers pay for it?

There is no plan for withdrawal of our troops in Iraq, and there's no sight of an enquiry with any teeth which could order a real trial against Blair and others who undoubtedly broke international law and everyone knows it.

There's no sight of any of the main parties tackling the ruthless betrayal of Britain in its unlawful attachment to the European Union which has no mandate from the people yet sets our laws and is soon to control our financial centres.

There is no sight of an immigration curb or of any measures to throw out those who came here illegally. In fact they talk of 'amnesties' for criminals who found their way here unchecked across the English Channel by some miracle they are all Atlantic Swimmers. Either that or someone let them in!

The list is of course much longer. But the season of goodwill will not be applied to traitors who bled my country dry. To them I say Bah Humbug, and bring on the election. Bring it on so people like me can remind you of the fuck up you have made of our country!

Incidentally, the plan to televise a national debate between members of the LibLabCon is nothing short than offering murderers their final words before sentence unless ALL parties with seats and support are allowed to say their bit in those debates. Unless this is achieved then it will be yet another example of the depths we have fallen to as a people for allowing it to be aired without complaint. We need to stand up for democracy before we lose the ability to protest.

Premonition or just commonsense

Last Saturday evening me my wife and son set out in the car to travel a ten mile journey to attend our daughters wedding reception. But after setting forth about 2 miles through icy blizzards, snowdrifts and dimly lit heavy traffic crawling at 10 MPH and dead stop. Then after being shouted at by a guy stood waiting at a pedestrian crossing who witnessed me going through a red light which I didn't see, and after seeing an ambulance attending an earlier accident, I guess commonsense took over and we decided it was best to turn back home. How crap I thought, to miss your daughters wedding reception, but I guess given a chance of spending the night in hospital or a morgue if we'd stupidly continued, we were left with only one real option.

That night we talked about another planned journey the next day. We were to set off on a 5 hour trek south and we'd planned to leave about 10am. We agreed the weather was again going to be too bad to risk the journey so we decided not to travel. A shame again, since I'd bought a new dinner suit and my wife a dress for the occasion, yet nothing was really worth stacking up against the loss of one or both our lives.

We slept peacefully that night. Next day as my wife was checking the news, she suddenly came across a story of a jack-knifed articulated lorry which had spilt its load southbound on the A19 at Tees-Side at 10.30am that morning, and it suddenly dawned on me that we would have logically been at the precise spot when it happened had we not decided to cancel the journey.

Maybe we had a premonition or maybe it was just commonsense I don't know, but at least we're still here thank God.

The trailer which jack-knifed: -

Commonsense may yet prevail over climate change

These politicians have no more capacity to understand the scientific arguments for AGW than anyone else does. They are not with super human intellect they are mortals just like us. Why do they therefore ignore and condemn those scientists who say it is not occurring, ignore the evidence which points to coverup and manipulation, and peddle their "beliefs" upon a world which can have only one outcome, to cause PANIC.

I ask that they look at the science on it and do not ask the world to change course with its economic and political systems on the back of unproven theories.

To do so is a recipe for a real man made disaster from which no one except the closetted political class will ever recover. We will be forced to comply to ever greater oppressive laws which destroy our democratic way of life, whilst they keep pandering themselves with bigger bank accounts, bigger business interests and bigger lies and suppression of 'alternate' truth, and it will all end in tears for the human race unless politicians begin to listen to the people who are just as smart as they are but a whole lot more rational with their arguments than they could ever be given that they pally up with minority causes with vested political interests.

Management of earths resources is the key to this. Simple thing is people need the basics in life, food being the main. Thus, the African continent should be turned to harvest on a mass scale. The indigenous peoples of Africa need to get to work on it i.e. Develop. Raise their living standards, their education and social and health programs in order to stabilise their populations. First things first eh. Maybe stop killing each other and battling in tribal wars would be a start in this process. Maybe welcome their kin folk from the likes of Bangladesh and other places hit by drought and famine. Maybe the rest of the world should help them do it. But for pity sake, don't try to con us into thinking CO2 is causing some climate catastrophe because we ain't going to be conned.

I trust people know that the EU farming CAP and Trade agreements have much to do with the lack of markets for grain from Africa incidentally? Yes, the 'beloved' EU's trade restrictions are helping to prevent development in the third world. But what do we do, put our own farmers out of work? - The answer has to be in Africa!

Secondly, there are already existing alternate energy sources. One of which is Hemp. It can be grown almost anywhere and can provide as much as oil in the way it is used. Also, Algae is another.

But clearly if we were not chopping down great swathes of forest, then there'd be more trees to absorb CO2 and there'd be more Oxygen in the atmosphere. We do need to replace our energy sources but I'd sooner have it done without lies, without political cons, and without some close elite making mega billions from a public stupid enough to believe they had our interests rather than their own at heart.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all for 2010

Commons Committee to investigate Climate Data

The Guardian reports that; Phil Willis, the chairman of the House of Commons science and technology committee, has written to Professor Edward Acton, the vice-chancellor of the University of East Anglia, requesting a "comprehensive note" setting out what had happened.

The letter also calls for the university to set out the steps taken to investigate the allegations and test the integrity of the data held by the unit, how the centre can "justify its commitment to academic transparency" and how the university proposes to restore confidence in the research.

The committee, which said it may ask the university to appear to give oral evidence, also asked for an assurance that none of the data referred to in the emails which have been published has been destroyed.

Meanwhile, despite there is no consensus on national agreements at Copenhagen, no consensus on the science, and half or more of world population disbelieving that man is responsible for climate change or can do anything to affect it. The powers that be blindly move along without paying any attention to any of them.

U. S. Senate Minority Report:

More Than 700 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims Scientists Continue to Debunk “Consensus” in 2008 / 2009  Public FILE.

In case no one noticed, there's a massive bright yellow object in our solar system which is pumping out heat at 10,000 degrees at the speed of light toward our miniscule unimportant planet!

By sheer coincidence ( or God's decision ), it also heats up the other planets too which have shown temperature swings matching those of earth.

Just in case anyone wanted to research this that is as opposed to listening to NON - SCIENTIFIC "Politicians" and "SCIENTISTS" who will not show their data to other scientists who say AGW is a load of junk!

Copenhagen was a cop out

I find it quite incredible they should ask us to believe that after 2 years of negotiations, they did not agree to monitoring before they went to Copenhagen. Surely without that basic agreement in place then agreement at COP15 was always going to be hit or miss. I also think a whole lot less of those people who call themselves our leaders if they failed to get agreement to international monitoring before launching such a political spectacle before the world, notleast because they have all chosen to ignore the multitude of evidence which was pouring out in the media, that should have alerted them to the fact "this ain't gonna work". - The IPCC needs a scientific head, scientists need to be recalled to question the ethics of the evidence for AGW, and the politicians should sit it out until scientific value and confidence has been restored without political leaning or bias from any quarter.

Even as Obama was talking, senators across the Atlantic were indicating that his promises would fail in the senate, so why was he even there.

Japan's leading climate scientist thoroughly debunking the UN's IPCC theories. From his summary: "[The IPCC's] conclusion that from now on atmospheric temperatures are likely to show a continuous, monotonic increase, should be perceived as an unprovable hypothesis," he writes."

"Before anyone noticed, this hypothesis has been substituted for truth... The opinion that great disaster will really happen must be broken."

We also have this report by World Net Daily detailing 650 scientists, some former members of the UN's IPCC, addressing the US Congress concerning their positions on man-made global warming.

"It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don't buy into anthropogenic global warming." -- U.S. Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

"Even doubling or tripling the amount of carbon dioxide will virtually have little impact, as water vapor and water condensed on particles as clouds dominate the worldwide scene and always will." -- Geoffrey G. Duffy, a professor in the Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering of the University of Auckland, New Zealand.

-This also seems to be proven in the ice core samples.

"For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?" -- Geologist Dr. David Gee, the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer-reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala University in Sweden.

"The [global warming] scaremongering has its justification in the fact that it is something that generates funds." -- Award-winning Paleontologist Dr. Eduardo Tonni, of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata.

Lord Monckton shouts back at "Hitler Youth"

Global Warming Lies Uncovered

Once the climate scam at Copenhagen has toppled, I'll be summing up where the politics went completely wrong. It's enough to say at this point, that unless we have idiots disguised as politicians running the planet, then we have sheep and/or control freaks who know exactly what they're doing is based on a clear lie to the entire world. - Watch the video.

More a Case for Global Governance?

Finally the church speaks out to warn of cultural suicide

It's just what I've been saying. Our culture is based on Christianity. We are a Christian people and we hold Christian values. Our constitution as well as the Queen's oath and our laws and our parliament, are all based on Christian values. It matters not whether you believe in Christianity or in God. What matters is that you understand this is England and that you understand its past and why we people are who we are. It is after all the very essence of what made Britain one of the most tolerant societies on earth, and helped to make us "British".

Melanie Phillips writing for the Daily Mail said;

Treating Christians as cranks is an act of cultural suicide.

The Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, comes in for a lot of stick - not least from columnists like me. But in the past few days, he has said something important. He has criticised Government ministers for thinking that Christian beliefs are no longer relevant in modern Britain, and for looking at religion as a 'problem'. Many Government faith initiatives, he observed, assumed that religion was an eccentricity practised by oddballs, foreigners and minorities. This is not just a seasonal exercise in special pleading by a Church leader. Dr Williams has put his finger on what should be a cause of extreme disquiet - the war of attrition being waged against Christian beliefs.

In recent times, there has been a string of cases in which it is no exaggeration to say that British Christians have been persecuted for expressing their faith.

In July, Duke Amachree, a Christian who for 18 years had been a Homelessness Prevention Officer for Wandsworth Council, encouraged a client with an incurable medical condition to believe in God.

As a result, Mr Amachree was marched off the premises, suspended and then dismissed from his job. It was a similar case to the Christian nurse who was suspended after offering to pray for a patient's recovery.

Christians are being removed from adoption panels if they refuse to endorse placing children for adoption with samesex couples. Similarly, a Christian counsellor was sacked by the national counselling service Relate because he refused to give sex therapy sessions to gays. What this amounts to is that for Christians, the freedom to live according to their religious beliefs - one of the most fundamental precepts of a liberal society - is fast becoming impossible. Indeed, merely professing traditional Christian beliefs can cause such offence that it is treated as a crime.

Take, for example, the case of Harry Hammond, an elderly and eccentric evangelical who was prosecuted for a public order offence after parading with a placard denouncing immorality and homosexuality - even though he was assaulted by the hostile crowd he was held to have offended. Or look at the case of the Vogelenzangs, a hotelier couple from Merseyside, who last week were cleared of a 'religiously aggravated' public order offence after being prosecuted for insulting a Muslim guest. While their behaviour may have been offensive and unwarranted, it is nevertheless a source of wonderment that for the police, 'hate crime' doesn't seem to occur whenever Christianity is pilloried, mocked and insulted - as happens routinely - but only when a minority faith is in the frame. Indeed, the Archbishop's complaint echoed an earlier Church-backed report that accused the Government of merely paying lip service to Christianity while focusing support on Muslims.

The curious fact is that Labour's hostility to faith is highly selective. It does everything it can to protect and support minority creeds while appearing to do everything it can to attack Christianity. The root of this double standard is the unpleasant prejudice that minority faiths hail from cultures where people are less well-educated and so cannot be blamed for their beliefs. This, of course, is a deeply racist attitude, and is commonly found on the Left. As Dr Williams observed, one of the effects of the modern hostility to religion is to give the impression that faith is not really very British. But on the contrary, it is part of the national psyche - even among people who don't go to church.

To stop the denigration of religion, the Archbishop has called on government ministers to be more willing to talk about their own faith. But since this is seen as the province of cranks, politicians are reluctant to do so because of the risk of public ridicule.

This well-nigh insuperable difficulty was acknowledged yesterday by Tony Blair in an interview about his religious beliefs. As his former spin doctor Alastair Campbell once famously observed: 'We don't do God.' This is because among the intelligentsia, the animosity to religion runs even deeper than the upside-down value system of the multicultural agenda. It springs from the fixed view that reason and religion are in diametrically opposite camps. Anyone who prays to God must therefore be anti-reason, anti- science and antifreedom - in other words, an objectionable, obscurantist nutcase. But this is the very opposite of the truth. Rationality is actually underpinned by Judeo-Christian beliefs.

Without the Biblical narrative, which gave the world the revolutionary idea of an orderly universe that could therefore be investigated by the use of reason, science would never have developed in the first place.  And it was the Judeo-Christian belief that all individuals are made equal in the image of God that gave rise to human rights and democracy. Of course, terrible things have also been done in the name of religion. And equally, people without religious faith can believe in freedom and equality, and lead moral lives.

But that's because they draw upon a culture that rests on religious foundations. Strip away those foundations and what's left would be a brutalised and chaotic society. You don't have to be a religious believer to be mightily concerned by such a likely consequence. But anxiety over fundamentalism has resulted in rising hostility to all religion. Notably, however, this is not the case in the U.S., which remains overwhelmingly an upfront Christian society. Its politicians are neither ashamed nor embarrassed to call upon God to bless America at every opportunity. Unlike U.S. mainstream Churches which, as descendants from the English Puritans, remain deeply wedded to the Biblical tradition, the Church of England has always looked down on true Scriptural believers as half-wits. With such a half-hearted foundation of religious belief, it has been more vulnerable than other Churches to the secular onslaught against religion. Dr Williams exemplifies this weakness by trying to go with the flow of social change and is for ever apologising for Christianity.

Certainly, it did some terrible things in the past to people of other faiths. But it is also responsible for the astonishing achievements of western civilisation. Rather than complaining about politicians, Dr Williams should use his office to teach the nation about the seminal importance of Christianity to this society. But to do that, he has to have faith in his own Church - a faith that too often appears to be lacking. The key point about the U.S. is that it still believes in itself as a nation and in its values, which are rooted in religion. Loyalty to their churches follows from loyalty to the nation in a kind of benign cycle. In Britain, however, religion and nation have formed a vicious cycle in which hostility to the country's identity and values reflects and feeds into hostility to the religion upon which they are based. The Archbishop's anguish at the onslaught upon Christian faith is very real. But unless he starts promoting the Church as the transcendental custodian of a civilisation rather than the Guardian newspaper at prayer, the society to which it gave rise will continue to sleepwalk off the edge of a religious and cultural cliff.

[Highlighted words were by me and not the author]

I'd like blood from our politicians please

What have we come to when the BBC makes a Breaking News story from a statement given by David Cameron that if he's elected by the British people, he would "ensure all Lords pay their taxes in Britain".......Hey! He's talking to you and me! He really intends to make sure that politicians actually pay taxes to the country they serve for f--- sake!!!! I mean what more do you want!!!.....Blood?

Well yes actually, I'd like a bit of blood please, and I'd like to start with a few pints from Gordon Brown. Who in a 'second Breaking News' story....yes, that's right, another News Story hot on the tail of Cameron, was another BBC announcement to tell us that Gordon Brown (may) - (possibly) - (could) - (maybe not), call an 'early' General Election.....(if), he is ahead in the polls and stands a chance to cut Cameron off at the pass.

Well nice one Gordon! Thank you ever so much for putting the country first and not giving any weight or consideration to your own arse being kicked too hard by the British public!

What news is this to wake up to on a Sunday morning I ask?

Are they really telling us they climbed out of bed early on their day off or are we to believe the BBC yet again has no news, is told not to yak on about Tiger Woods all day, doesn't want to interview a politician with any backbone or a clue, but instead thinks up the idea that the British people will be heartened in some way to learn that the Lords may have to pay taxes and the biggest dictating twat ever to scourge our country with his unelected political lassitude is about to condescend to ask us to vote to save his arse?

Tell me I was dreaming, and we really don't have the prospect of either of these two getting their hands on the UK tiller for 5 years.......please!

We have to fight for survival!

Some people just want to hear the truth -

Hearing Alistair Darling's pre-budget report yesterday made me recall some earlier posts I'd written about Native Indians of America, and how they were betrayed by fork-tongues and broken words between themselves and the "white man". Listening carefully to the Chancellor I didn't really hear much if anything about tackling our rising national debt. Instead I heard words which seemed to encourage. Words which were calm and intended to tell us not to be too concerned because he has it all under control. I heard some words designed to show the government was being fair, and I heard some words to show that there will be cuts later but not until our economy and people can stand the pain they will bring.

Then as I say, I was reminded of Chiefs Joseph, Black Eagle and Black Kettle who saw their agreements and willingness to accept the new peace with the "white chiefs", torn up and ignored.

It draws a similarity for me also in respect of actions taken by the government with the Lisbon Treaty where our words didn't count. It gave me more than a few thoughts too that we have a general election looming, and that the pre-budget report was perhaps just another charade which was being played out in order to pacify the people in order to gain our agreement. In order to get yet another peace with us so they could later break their promise just as they have always done.

It made me think, no longer can they be trusted. Just as once it was recognised by native American's that the white man speaks with forked tongue, I felt the same. But the facts are plain to see. Our nations economics are as Vince Cable said, "Built on a pile of sand and all the budget amounts to is building it again on another pile of sand". We all know our industrial base, our engineering base, our production base and even our cultural base, has been smashed to smithereens by consecutive governments. So much so, that all we really have left is a financial sector with one half making money hand over fist in trading financial products in the city and the other half making a living from selling loans and mortgages to the rest of us who can't afford them. Whereas then you have the real economy which hasn't really changed that much since Napoleonic days when it was noticed we were a nation of shopkeepers. Apparently because back then, our MP's were selected from shopkeepers and farmers etc, who actually had some wherewithall of peoples real needs as opposed to those we have today who rarely are seen to understand the desires of the commoner despite they are our representatives in the house of commons. If they lived in the real world then they'd notice that we're still a nation of shopekeepers only now all we're really doing is selling foreign goods to each other and taking loans to pay for them.

I think this pre-budget report bodes badly for Britain because it hinges on hope. Hope that the economy will improve and grow again and hope that the exchequer will gain tax revenues in order to prevent having to borrow inexorable amounts to fund public services. Hope that the city will pick up and hope that people will borrow again and start spending.

People will of course do what they want to do so that is the unanswered question when it comes to setting out a budget. You see you can't account for people's desires in a balance sheet. All Alistair Darling can do is to set out a reasonable projection based on (a-b-c). Yet if (d) happens he has no answers and has to raise taxes and make drastic cuts. (d) of course being YOUR choice. It is your choice whether you borrow money and spend it. It is your choice whether you accept a government forecast which is basing predictions on the financial sector returning our economy back to what it was or whether you believe those days are over. It is your choice whether you rely on Alistair Darlings judgement and whether you think he's telling the truth or whether there's a sharp shock planned after the election. And it's your choice too as to what kind of shock you want because the shock cannot be avoided that we as a country must pay down debt otherwise we're bust.

I made my mind up some time ago when I saw our industrial base, our engineering base, our means of production and our culture being tipped down the pan. I made my mind up long ago when I realised that the pile of sand they built the country on with financial services to those who are already in too much debt, was akin to madness. For all they really did by giving you debt was to switch the pain from the state to you. They made you take the debt for higher education for instance by telling you that you had to meet that cost yourself. They made you meet the cost of debt on a mortgage instead of building a decent home for you. Yes, it is a fact that some people actually prefer not to have debt in order to "own" their own home so that one day it can be made worthless because there are no buyers, so that one day the amount it is worth is valueless because the money it raises can buy lots less than they thought. And some people prefer the truth no matter how difficult it is, as opposed to living the illusion that a firm foundation can be built on a pile of sand.

Some people would actually like their government to put their needs first in terms of work, education and financial stability, as opposed to it pandering to jokers in the city whilst lying to the people they are there to serve.

Some people just want to hear the truth.

Hin-mah-too-yah-lat-kekht (Chief Joseph)

"Thunder Rolling Down the Mountain"

'Chief Joseph' on his visit to Washington D.C. 1879

"At last I was granted permission to come to Washington and bring my friend Yellow Bull and our interpreter with me. I am glad I came. I have shaken hands with a good many friends, but there are some things I want to know which no one seems able to explain. I cannot understand how the Government sends a man out to fight us, as it did General Miles, and then breaks his word. Such a government has something wrong about it. I cannot understand why so many chiefs are allowed to talk so many different ways, and promise so many different things. I have seen the Great Father Chief [President Hayes]; the Next Great Chief [Secretary of the Interior]; the Commissioner Chief; the Law Chief; and many other law chiefs [Congressmen] and they all say they are my friends, and that I shall have justice, but while all their mouths talk right I do not understand why nothing is done for my people. I have heard talk and talk but nothing is done. Good words do not last long unless they amount to something. Words do not pay for my dead people. They do not pay for my country now overrun by white men. They do not protect my father's grave. They do not pay for my horses and cattle. Good words do not give me back my children. Good words will not make good the promise of your war chief, General Miles. Good words will not give my people a home where they can live in peace and take care of themselves. I am tired of talk that comes to nothing. It makes my heart sick when I remember all the good words and all the broken promises. There has been too much talking by men who had no right to talk. Too many misinterpretations have been made; too many misunderstandings have come up between the white men and the Indians. If the white man wants to live in peace with the Indian he can live in peace. There need be no trouble. Treat all men alike. Give them the same laws. Give them all an even chance to live and grow. All men were made by the same Great Spirit Chief. They are all brothers. The earth is the mother of all people, and all people should have equal rights upon it. You might as well expect all rivers to run backward as that any man who was born a free man should be contented penned up and denied liberty to go where he pleases. If you tie a horse to a stake, do you expect he will grow fat? If you pen an Indian up on a small spot of earth and compel him to stay there, he will not be contented nor will he grow and prosper. I have asked some of the Great White Chiefs where they get their authority to say to the Indian that he shall stay in one place, while he sees white men going where they please. They cannot tell me.

I only ask of the Government to be treated as all other men are treated. If I cannot go to my own home, let me have a home in a country where my people will not die so fast. I would like to go to Bitter Root Valley. There my people would be happy; where they are now they are dying. Three have died since I left my camp to come to Washington.

When I think of our condition, my heart is heavy. I see men of my own race treated as outlaws and driven from country to country, or shot down like animals.

I know that my race must change. We cannot hold our own with the white men as we are. We only ask an even chance to live as other men live. We ask to be recognized as men. We ask that the same law shall work alike on all men. If an Indian breaks the law, punish him by the law. If a white man breaks the law, punish him also.

Let me be a free man, free to travel, free to stop, free to work, free to trade where I choose, free to choose my own teachers, free to follow the religion of my fathers, free to talk, think and act for myself -- and I will obey every law or submit to the penalty.

Whenever the white man treats the Indian as they treat each other then we shall have no more wars. We shall be all alike -- brothers of one father and mother, with one sky above us and one country around us and one government for all. Then the Great Spirit Chief who rules above will smile upon this land and send rain to wash out the bloody spots made by brothers' hands upon the face of the earth. For this time the Indian race is waiting and praying. I hope no more groans of wounded men and women will ever go to the ear of the Great Spirit Chief above, and that all people may be one people.

Hin-mah-too-yah-lat-kekht has spoken for his people."

On a visit to Washington, D.C., 1879

More; Chief Joseph's struggle, Chief Black Eagle and the Sand Creek Massacre

Shut it or Moderate muslims are doomed to fail - "France is Christian" Sarkozy says

TIMES

Nicolas Sarkozy stoked the debate over immigration today with a warning to Muslims to practise their religion discreetly or face rejection by moderate Islam in France. The President voiced sympathy for Swiss voters who opted last week to ban minarets as he tried to reassert himself in a debate over national identity which he launched last month but that has since spiralled out of his control.

Over the past week, Mr Sarkozy had appeared to retreat from his original comments following a backlash over the way that they were being used against immigrants, particularly Muslims. But in a column for Le Monde, Mr Sarkozy returned to his theme and said that the result of the Swiss referendum showed how important it was for France to define its identity. "Instead of condemning the Swiss out of hand, we should try to understand what they meant to express and what so many people in Europe feel, including people in France," he wrote. "Nothing would be worse than denial." Mr Sarkozy called for tolerance and underlined France's respect for all faiths, but his message was intended primarily to reassure those who are unhappy about what they see as a threatening Muslim presence in the country.

"Christians, Jews, Muslims, all believers regardless of their faith, must refrain from ostentation and provocation and ... practice their religion in humble discretion," Mr Sarkozy wrote.

Addressing himself to Muslims, he wrote that anything that could appear as a challenge to France's Christian heritage and republican values would "doom to failure" a moderate Islam in France.

Comment:

Sounds reasonable to me, except Christianity should not shut it in a Christian country. France is secular but he confirmed that France has Christian heritage which is true. Someone should also have the bottle to confirm the same thing here in Britain before we're taken over by fundamentalists and see our own culture wrecked. Good for Sarkozy but maybe he's saying as much as he needs to just to win a few voters from Jean-Marie Le Pen's Front National. I won't hold my breath for Brown growing a pair. Him and his Marxist lieutenants are far gone, same as the Libbies and Conneron. No guts you see and all PC.

The only way to maintain our culture is to take a tip from Sarkozy and get patriotic, and not support any attempt to secularize our country which would remove the rock on which the sovereign oath was given and which confirms our sovereignty and our constitutional rights as a people over the rights of parliament. As our Queen in keeping the oath, manifestly has our sovereignty in the palm of her hand until each and every 5 years it is temporarily handed back to us the people. Thus we exercise our sovereign authority to elect a government to serve us. Of course this is how it 'should' be and not how it is. For no government has ever kept its promise to the British people and their political manifesto's are worthless pieces of paper. Hence they do what they like when in office and try to pacify us soon before an election.

My hope is that the British people will eventually awaken to the sham politics we have and place their own sovereign power before all others. My hope is that they begin to see they've been continually lied to and cheated, and that they begin to vote for patriots in larger numbers who will  clean up our politics and restore faith in politicians, the crown and the peoples sovereign rights over both these, just as it was intended, written and sworn under Magna Carta.

"Here is a law which is above the King and which even he must not break. This reaffirmation of a supreme law and its expression in a general charter is the great work of Magna Carta; and this alone justifies the respect in which men have held it." --Winston Churchill, 1956

Australian Glacier Expert says rising sea levels are "Nothing to do with CO2"

Professor Cliff Ollier, a Professor of Geology from the University of Western Australia who focuses on ice caps and glaciers, came to Copenhagen to have his say on the connection between glaciers and the rising sea level.

“The whole mechanism of glacial flow has nothing to do with the rising temperature or carbon dioxide,” says the professor.

Scientists tell Copenhagen "to prove it".



MORE FROM RT ON COPENHAGEN HERE

All those blue people must be on something. Either that or they're ancient Britons come back from the dead to tell us all how they forgot the last ice age before they moved in here!

Funny thing is I just watched the interview with a Glacier expert. One Professor Cliff Ollier from the University of Western Australia and a counter-signatory to the letter sent the IPCC with 30,000 other names on it which says C02 is not to blame.

Funny thing is he says we have ice cores going back 796,000 years and by the very fact we have them it means the ice there has not melted. Funny thing facts are they not.

Second thing is, him having studied glaciers all his life I guess he's no longer useful. The blue people seem to know more about it than him you see. Only Prof Ollier says that glaciers melt underneath and slide naturally due to geo-thermal heat which comes from the earth's CORE and not from CO2.

Thing is, he and all the other scientists say all this is propaganda and that C02 is nothing to do with climate change, but there you go, he's just a scientist so what does he know. Most likely the IPCC will keep listening to the blue people because they make more noise I guess.

Imagine There's No Global Warming

Birth Control and Green Shit

I won't be around at the turn of the century, and nor will any of my kids. It's a natural but unappetising thought you see, but people don't actually live forever. So what if temperatures rise? What then? Do we all jump off the planet or live with it?

i.e. Do we ADAPT to nature like man has always done or think we pathetic humans can change the earths climate cycle, bearing in mind we can't even feed ourselves or stop making war with each other and can't hand out drugs to people with diseases that ended years ago in most civilised so called 'developed' countries?

Was it our fault despite scientists themselves say that CO2 emissions caused by man may not in fact be the 'problem'? And even if it is a 'man-made' problem then there's not that much we can do about it despite all the huffing and puffing from both sides of the argument. We may stop 'our' emissions but we can't stop 'natural emissions', and that's even IF our emissions actually amount to anything!

The climate is changing but man cannot change nature. And even if he could, then why would anyone want to put faith in these people who say their strategy is perhaps just a safe bet. i.e. We might as well do something but we don't know if we can do enough.

Meanwhile, there are those eminent scientists who say we should adapt to climate change just as man has always done. But the overriding fact here is that climate changes showing the type of results they say could happen, can only be a problem if those areas feeling the effects of climate change are populated. So it comes back to an overpopulation problem rather than a climate problem. i.e. It is man who has to adapt to climate change not the other way round.

The question of how do we reduce population sizes is as much if not more controversial than how do we reverse climate change. But it is a question which will have to be asked one day.

I see a fundamental question needs to be tackled head on, and it's this. If they think lots of people will be suffering or dying as a result of floods etc, and they know where those locations are. Then surely they need to get in place some birth controls NOW in those locations. Incidentally, part of the adaptation process should include life saving equipment. Yes, inflatable rubber dinghies in your home. I'm not kidding. Secondly, if it's Africa and Asia, then those places need a combined rescue service put in situation now. Even if catastrophe doesn't happen then that will be useful anyway. Flying doctors etc and health service centres mid location on higher ground. That type of thing, as well as proper storages for food and water, and 'kit homes' that can be easily put together like pre-fabs.

How on earth people think they can stop the earth flooding areas is way beyond science it is more like mass hysteria. But if we are so good at defending ourselves against rain then why is the Thames Barrier not higher and why is the budget for sea defences still massively under funded by the same government which is bleating on to us to raise taxes so we can make others safe but not ourselves. Why is it that the countries they talk about all happen to have the densest populations. And why is it that as a result of their inability to control their own populations which are already leading to deaths in the hundreds of thousands, that we who have lower birth rates, have to pick up the cost of their inadequacy to control birth rates. I don't just mean monetary cost either, for that is insignificant. The 'cost' is in lives, cultures and whole races.

The fact is, is that mankind is made up of disparate tribes whether we like it or not. People are different and differences mixed may well lead to lots of hostility. Heck we have evidence of this now and a catastrophe hasn't even happened. Already we have politicians saying they think it should be a human right for instance to seek refuge from climate change in another country. Okay, so that isn't unreasonable to save millions of lives is it. But where does that lead you to next except to 'we have a right to retain our own culture' and a right to represent our politics and religions despite we're in your country which by international law doesn't belong to you anymore. It just so happens that by default of the climate cranks, a billion odd people happen to be in our country which international law has deemed not to exist because everywhere is a refuge. So where did MY home go to? Yet others who are refugees WILL have a home. Not us, we were booted out of ours when a billion aliens landed who didn't have the sense to control their population having had a warning 100 years beforehand that a human catastrophe was looming. I mean 100 years is long enough to reduce population size reasonably isn't it? Like with fertility pills and contraception? So why have a bunch of kids if YOU think you're going to be homeless, and what responsibility is being taken to ensure we are not displaced from our own countries? - i.e. Not a thing is being done for that!

The alternative to birth control is that 1-2 billion people move north following mans pathetic attempts to control the earths climate, which can only be effected by us to a minute amount anyway. Man controlling the climate of the earth is akin to man making it rain. It's akin to man parting the seas like Moses or walking on water like Jesus. It is either completely against nature or it is a miracle. Yet unless mankind learns to live with one another then the human race could dissolve into civil wars anyway simply because of the demands placed on us by less intolerant cultures with shed loads of kids they could have decided not to have. With lower education, different languages and cultures and standards of life, all looking for work, health care and money, food and houses in MY country. I mean is it to be acceptable here for half the world not affected by climate change to be made mad by those who are with all the extra crime, and disease it brings us as well as the horrific things some people do to one another which make many of us revile?

I'm glad I won't be around. I'd sooner be dead even if I had a choice to live like that. Where everything you had is gone and everything you loved about your lifestyle was taken from you because half the world wouldn't control their birth rates.

Oh but hey, don't concern yourself if you are one of these freaking company directors or politicians with your finger in the economic green pie because you will be okay in your penthouses with your own landing strips and barriers around your life so YOU won't be affected. In fact if you run out of money you can just award yourself some more or put the prices up on your green shit for the rest of us.

CLIMATE CHANGE WAS WORKED OUT BY 'MAGIC' -

On Tuesday November 17, a substantial file including over 1,000 emails either sent from or sent to members of the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia in eastern England, were allegedly hacked and leaked onto the Internet.

MAGICC/SCENGEN is climate software. A CDROM based programme which can be used on any home computer. The thing which caught my eye here is why call it "MAGIC". Why not just say it's a climate forecasting code which explains what it is. I got the list of all the emails from the CRU sent me on my Google link which is picking up information whenever it lands. This time it came from The New York Times , so I was keen to have a look at the emails and found this one where the guy mentions 'magic'.

Mike Hulme wrote:
>
> Gareth,
>
> Thank you for endowing me with the grand title of co-ordinator of magic!!
>
> Such a position does not really exist here. The model developers are Sarah
> Raper and Tom Wigley, to whom I am copying this reply, and it is the two of
> them that really need to grant your request.
>
> My role is more specifically in relation to the availability and
> distribution of the public domain version of MAGICC/SCENGEN Version 2.4 on
> CD-ROM and the accompanying manual. However, your request is really for
> the TAR version of MAGICC and even the source code and that request I
> cannot grant.
>
> I would hope that either/or Sarah and Tom will reply to you directly.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Mike

Okay, so I'm not that suspicious but I AM inquisitive. I Googled MAGICC/SCENGEN and came across the description of the software, which is in pdf .

It lists how to use it along with a description of course and I was keen to read a little more until I noticed that it describes the software can "be used individually or in any user-defined combination.". Further, that the Keyboard Input allows "The user to have control over various climate model and gas-cycle model parameters."

It means that they can mess with the results and key in whatever parameters they want to fit the desired answer.

I think there's no need to go any further but be my guest, read it for yourself here.

I guess if they talk about 'magic' and 'tricks', and I guess if data entries and gas-cycle model parameters can be left open to us humans, then it's a question of looking at the "raw data" and the computer codes of the 'MAGICC' software, before a scientific judgement can be made on whether AGW results have been conjured up by magicians or are a subject of ANY errors, or whether other external forces could have manipulated or tampered with 'the evidence'.

How secure was that software for instance?


Well the University said it had been broken into many times.


Who would break into a climate research centre and why?


Where is the raw data?


Where is the computer code for the 'MAGICC' software?


Where is the truth about man made climate change or do you believe in magic?

What do other scientists say?

Watch an interview today with Lord Monckton

All this argument is immaterial without the data and the computer codes which gave the climate model its parameters to calculate that climate change is "man made", as opposed to a result of natural climate cycles. Why has the data and the computer model not been subjected to full scientific analysis and debate from all sides of the argument.

Also, MAGICC/SCENGEN, the software used to work out the climate model, allows any person trained and 'untrained', to enter any parameters they like. Who is to say some of the data has not been incorrectly entered. The CRU was broken in to many times. Has anyone bothered to check whether the data was altered or manipulated. They even say the earth has been 'cooling', and eminent scientists say we are more likely heading toward a mini ice-age. This is why they switched the claim from GW to CC. What next? Well they now say there's a lack of salt in the oceans and that will lead to climate change. They seem to come up with a new theory everytime a question is raised to debunk their theories.

These guys cannot have it all ways without an argument with the thousands of scientists who disagree with their findings, otherwise science itself will not be believed. Politics should stay out of it until the scientific case is completely settled.

Churchill warned Europe will fall because of Islam -

Sir Winston Churchill wrote;

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome. "

Comment:

At this time we have large numbers of the population beginning to doubt science following 'Climategate'. Besides this, the European Union has continued to develop itself outside of our democratic norms and has presented laws upon us which upset our individual normalities in terms of what our societies once were. We are, as Winston Churchill foretold, on the brink of destruction of our civilisation unless doubts are dispelled, truth of science prevails, and our national sovereignties are regained. All men fear, is not knowing what lies ahead of us if we change things. But we must change things. We must change politics and our economies. And we must reshape society for the people instead of the unelected capitalists and control freaks who are wrecking our entire world with their insane madness.